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Do Loud Pipes Save Lives?
There is a lot of discussion over this subject outside the Biker community; the state of California is considering a law on Loud Pipes. If this law takes place in CA it could track thru many more states. What's your thoughts?
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Permalink Reply by Gary Harris on -
Yes, I definitely believe that they do. How many times have we heard, "I just didn't see him (or her)? They would have to be blind and deaf to hit me.
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Permalink Reply by David & Nadine Silcox on -
Yes they do!!
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Permalink Reply by Van saade on -
A-men
B.W.Gray said:YES--- Loud pipes do save lives And they sound good to
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Permalink Reply by DCT on -
As Dragonfly said in her forum....I hate goverment in our lives. Loud pipes do save lives. My Mom is 90 years old and understands the reson for laoud pipes. Let's fight any law that would restrict our ablity to have what we want on our bike's.
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Permalink Reply by Griz on -
Blrothers and Sisters, we need to fight this in every state - Keep Goverment out of Bikers Lives!
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Permalink Reply by Loco Joe on
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Of course they save lives! Especially if you're in any half-assed distance to them. You can definately let them know that you happen to be in the area! It;s just another case of the man pushing some stupid assed law thru that makes no sense to any body but themselves.
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Permalink Reply by Timothy Truax on
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i think so, you here the bike long before you see it, and it causes you to look for it.
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Permalink Reply by DixieDew on -
You know there's been times( me as a biker) hasn't heard a motorcycle right beside me until it was right under me, now all I know is that when someone has loud pipes at least I can hear them coming ... I'm just saying loud pipes do save lives!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Permalink Reply by Griz on
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California has new statewide law governing motorcycle sound!
A new California law requires street motorcycles registered in the state and built on or after Jan. 1, 2013, to have an exhaust system label certifying the motorcycles meet federal sound limits.
On Sept. 28, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed into law Senate Bill 435, sponsored by Sen. Fran Pavley (D-Agoura Hills). While motorcycle manufacturers have been complying with the federal law since it was effective in 1983, the new law now makes it a state crime to operate any motorcycle registered in the state that was built on or after Jan. 1, 2013, that doesn't have a federal Environmental Protection Agency exhaust system sound emissions label.
In addition, the law requires aftermarket exhaust systems made on or after Jan. 1, 2013, to display the EPA sound emissions label, and therefore applies to individuals who seek to replace the exhaust system on affected streetbikes.
To view the legislation, see http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill/sen/sb_0401-0450/sb_435_bill_....
Thousands of motorcyclists utilized the AMA website at AmericanMotorcyclist.com first to oppose the bill, and then to urge Schwarzenegger to reject it.
AMA Western States Representative Nick Haris expressed major concerns about the new law.
"Many EPA labels are very difficult to locate on motorcycles," Haris said. "This law could lead to a flurry of tickets for motorcyclists who have legal exhaust systems with EPA labels on their machines that can't be easily seen. It's unreasonable to expect a law enforcement officer to easily locate an EPA label, and it's simply unfair to expect a motorcycle owner to partially dismantle an exhaust system along the roadside to prove the label exists."
Violators face fines of up to $100 for a first offense and up to $250 for subsequent offenses. Judges have the discretion to dismiss the fine for first-time offenders if the violation is corrected.
Also, a violation is considered a secondary offense, meaning a police officer can't stop a motorcyclist solely because the officer believes the motorcyclist is breaking the sound emissions label law.
"Requiring that a motorcycle display a readily visible EPA label isn't the appropriate way to address concerns about excessive motorcycle sound, which the AMA has pointed out repeatedly," Haris said. "The only objective way to determine whether a motorcycle complies with sound laws is for properly trained personnel to conduct sound level tests using calibrated meters and an agreed-upon testing procedure."
In 1972, Congress passed the federal Noise Control Act, which required the EPA to set sound standards for a number of products. It took several years, but the EPA eventually wrote rules affecting all new motorcycles sold in the U.S. beginning in 1983.
Those regulations, which still stand today, required that all street-legal motorcycles be limited to 83 decibels at that time, with a stricter, 80-decibel limit imposed beginning in 1986, measured with a ride-by test.
The AMA has long maintained a position of strong opposition to excessive motorcycle sound. In September 2009, the AMA developed model legislation for use by cities and states seeking a simple, consistent and economical way to deal with sound complaints related to on-highway motorcycles within the larger context of excessive sound from all sources.
The model legislation offers an objective method to evaluate motorcycle sound based on the Society of Automotive Engineers' (SAE) J2825 standard, "Measurement of Exhaust Sound Pressure Levels of Stationary On-Highway Motorcycles," which is a stationary test. For more information, click here: http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/legisltn/Model_On_Highway_Sound....
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